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English/Anglish and Spelling
Discovered the site after a question on university challenge I believe. Great to see a bunch of like minded folks. I am a firm believer though in reformed spelling for English as well and make a contribution here using coined words, what I consider to be more Germanic plurals and reformed standardised sounds from the spelling. It is not foolproof but just to give an idea. Is anyone else interested or do you think it is a step too far. Personally I think both standard modern English and Anglish could benefit from consideration of reformed spelling as well as word origin. Particularly true I feel about modern English which is a complete confusion of spellings partly again because of the good old Norman influence between 1066 and whenever Norman French finally was put to bed in England. Typically the English refuse to get to grip with the situation (because each generation has grown up with it) and passes the mess on to the next. It is typical of the English attitude I am afraid of bemused superiority whilst the rest of the world gets on and in many cases overtakes them, why we were one of the last countries to adopt decimal currency, metric systems, drive on the left, don't put the name of the country on the stamps, refuse to join the Euro (might have copped lucky there) etc

Anyway contribution below for what it is worth: =Court Speech – Breaker Morant=

Now, when the rules and customs of war are departed from by one side, one must expect the same sort of behaviour from the other. Accordingly, officers of the Carbineers should be, and up until now have been, given the widest possible discretion in their treatment of the enemy. Now, I don't ask for proclamations condoning distasteful methods of war, but I do say that we must take for granted that it does happen. Let's not give our officers hazy, vague instructions about what they may or may not do. Let's not reprimand them, on the one hand for hampering the column with prisoners, and at another time and another place, hold them up as murderers for obeying orders. [...] The fact of the matter is that war changes men's natures. The barbarities of war are seldom committed by abnormal men. The tragedy of war is that these horrors are committed by normal men in abnormal situations, situations in which the ebb and flow of everyday life have departed and have been replaced by a constant round of fear, and anger, blood, and death. Soldiers at war are not to be judged by civilian rules, as the prosecution is attempting to do, even though they commit acts which, calmly viewed afterwards, could only be seen as unchristian and brutal. And if, in every war, particularly guerilla war, all the men who committed reprisals were to be charged and tried as murderers, court martials like this one would be in permanent session. Would they not? I say that we cannot hope to judge such matters unless we ourselves have been submitted to the same pressures, the same provocations as these men, whose actions are on trial.

Nau, wen dhu laun and handoveren ov war ar left from bei won seid, won must forwaet dhu saem kaind ov biehaeving from dhu odhur. So, werktrusteren ov dhu Karabinieren sjuud bie and up until nau hav bien given the widest kan selfstandinghood in dhehr handling of the foe. Nau Ai doen’t ask for forsayingen midgiving unsmaki waen ov war but Ai duu sae dhat wie must taek for given dhat it duz hapen. Lets not giv aur werktrusteren haezi or wanderlaik inbildingen abaut wot dhae mae or mae not do. Lets not widerwarn dhem on dhu won hand for hampering dhu lein with helderen and at anodhur teim and anodhur spot hold dhem up az manslauteren for duuing inbildingen. Dhu truuthov dhu mater iz dhat war wrixels mens gekinden. Dhu rawhuuden ov war ar seldom undertaekn bai outmid men. Dhu soroehuud ov war iz dhat thiez shudermakingen ar dun bai mid men in outmid setingen, setingen in wic dhu eb and floe ov everidae leif hav left and hav bien bakspoted bei ae midstanding rawnd ov fier and anger blud and deth. Warmakeren at war ar not to bie diemed bai taundwelerens laun az dhu forfoloing iz traing tuu duu even dhoe dhae undertaek dieden wic stil-li sien afterwardz kuud onlie bie sien az unkristian and dierli. And if in everi war sunderli guerrilla war al dhu men hoo undertuuk baktaekingen wer tuu bie loeded az manslauteren warmakeren deemhieringen leik dhis won wuud bie in alwaezon siting. Wuud dhae not? Ai sae dhat wie kanot hoep tuu diem suc materen unless wie aurselven hav bien underput tuu dhu saem pusjdaunen dhu saem forkaulingen az dhiez men huuz diedenar on pruufing.

=Spelling Notes=

Note dh for the th sound in the

Z for s that soundz like z

C for ch

Sj for sh sound (thought of x but that is too radical)

Uu for the oo sound

Ai or ei for the “eye” sound

=New words and how coined=

Handoveren – things which are handed over ie customs

Forwaet- prefix for plus wait to give the sense of waiting that expectation gives

Biehaeving – more Germanic spelling of behaviour

Werktrusteren- Officers ie those holding a position of trust in work

Selfstandinghood- independence or discretion in the sense of a wide remit

Forsayingen- - prefix for again to give a sense of saying something widely loudly etc

Midgiving – mid ie with and giving to give or go along with ie condone

Unsmaki – smak related to german taste and pre fix un

Waen- ways or methods

Wanderlaik = wandering ie vague

Inbildingen – in prefix and bild instead of latin struct

Widerwarn –wider prefix “against” and warn ie warn against making tell off or reprimand

Helderen- those who are held ie prisoners

Spot – in this case place

Manslauteren – ie killers of people

Duuing – in this case obeying

Wrixels – from the wiki site anglish moot to change

Gekinden- again from the wiki site re nature

Rawhuuden – barbarism just refers to beards – this is a different word from rawness meant to stand for what barbarity stands for now.

Outmid – Outwith ie not within or normal ie abnormal

Soroehuud – a made up word to cover tragedy (Greek: tragedy =goat song)

Shudermaking – the word horror comes from this so why not render it into English

Mid- with or normal

Setingen – situations

Bakspoted – ie put back in place spot being place and bak being back

Midstanding is in this case withstanding or enduring ie constant

Warmaker – maker of war

Diemed – judged as in IOM

Taundwelerens – of town dwellers civilians or civilised

Forfoloing – for and follow to render the latin routes of prosecution into English

Dieden – deeds

Stil-li – calmly

Dierli- beastly from dier or deer as animal or beast (not just deer)

Sunderli – particular means to part or to sunder or isolate hence sunderli for particularly

Baktaekingen – reprisal means taking things back hence this

Loeded – charged means loaded hence this

Underput - make to submit or submit

Pusjdaun – pressures ie things which push down

Forkauling – prefix for and calling so for calling = pro voke

Pruufing – test as in german in this case to mean trial

Starbord 15:13, August 21, 2010 (UTC)