The word in Gen 1:6 rendered here as "stronghold" is "fundamentum" in the Biblia Sacra Vulgata.  "Fundamentum" is a support, a foundation, especially (but not exclusively) metaphorical as in a foundation or support for an argument or idea.  kjv is "firmament." According to strong's concordance, the hebrew is "an expanse", as in something that has been pounded out so that it expands, like a sheet of metal overlaying something.  I would like to see how it was rendered in greek for the septuagint but I can't read greek.  while I think "stronghold" is not the right word, I'm struggling to find one that is any better.  "besmithing"?  Here is the verse in greek, can any of you read this καὶ εἶπεν ὁ θεός γενηθήτω στερέωμα ἐν μέσῳ τοῦ ὕδατος καὶ ἔστω διαχωρίζον ἀνὰ μέσον ὕδατος καὶ ὕδατος καὶ ἐγένετο οὕτως . . . how about "spread"? a perfectly good modern english word that comes from an OE root and that means more or less exactly what the hebrew means.  I think we have a winner - "spread", not "stronghold" 206.212.229.143 07:24, June 25, 2016 (UTC)  


"God's ghost fared over the waters."

Wow! Isn't that so very vivid!

81.157.247.165 07:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Aye, it is truly lively. --Malirath 16:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

God said, "Let there be a growth midst the waters, and let it cleave the waters from the waters."

This is better: God said, "Let there be a growth in the midst of the waters..."

Overbringings for landnames and mannames[edit source]

Overbringings for landnames and mannames in the Beginning:

Adam - Man Pishon - Sputter Havilah - Wanewick (?) Gihon - Gushing Myrrh - Kingsreek or King's-reek Cush - Sideland Tigris - Thornrash Euphrates - Thriving, or possibly Berryish Assyria - Evenland Eve - Gathering Eden - Bliss (i.e. delight, luxury) Cain - Gotten (i.e. acquisition, or possibly, spear, in which case, "Goad" would work) Abel - Whiff (i.e. breath, vanity) Nod - Wanderer (land of the Wanderer) Irad - Sinking (or Witness or Fleeing) Mehujael - Godsmitten Lamech - Nether Adah - Decking Zillah - Shadow Jabal - Herdstream Jubal - Horn Tubal-Cain - Smith-Gotten Naamah - Sweetly Seth - Given Enosh - Woeful Cainan - Growth Mahaleel - Godsong

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