The Anglish Moot

Ghostfire?[]

It's nice: A bit iron age sounding -- but I thought we were being vivid rather than ancient. Thundermight sounds wierd but it's a fairly accurate description -- Thunder is electric after all.

We do imagine a ghostly fire, maybe blue, sweeping through the computer, but shall we shove it to the back of the list? It's probably better to speak of thunder than of ghosts. Inkstersco 81.129.68.251 20:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, shunt it to the back. I only put it to the front sorta randomly... it is the word for electricity in Icelandic, y'see. 82.44.212.6 21:13, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Watt is a neologism after James Watt. Are you sure we can use it?
Only because Watt is Germanic, elegant and relevant. It's a bit like "tonnage" meaning "tons of weight". ~Inkstersco

Maybe we could put the word "spark" as a root for words to do with "electricity". Maybe try "sparkflow" for "electricity" and "sparkwork" for "electric" (device). I've been led to this by the words "clockwork" and "firework" and by the slang word "sparky" for "electrician"

Tom

I think you could be on a fertile path here, at least it is the kind of thing we need to think about when coming up with new words. 'Electricity' and its associated words aren't ever going to be easy to replace, but I would like to see this line pursued more. Oswax Scolere 15:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Note -- I think Bryan said Ghostfire was Icelandic. I suggest Sparkflow. ~Inkstersco

En- / Um(be)-[]

I know where this comes from (ymbe-?), but don't think it is good. Many words have 'be-' as a prefix meaning 'about', but I don't know of any today words with the 'um(be)-' prefix. Has there been any words since the 1300's hundreds with this prefix? Sorry to be awful, but it rings so odd to me. Oswax Scolere 16:11, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

'Salright. Maybe be- does not always fit so well the meaning. I Seem to be able to find formations in English til about 1500ish. In Scotland, it seems to have hung around much longer. I know what you mean about it being a bit too old and os odd... but then, half the words in this wordbook have been dead for so long they are, frankly, rather "odd" themselves. :) BryanAJParry 11:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Many of the words made it Middle English but with the Latinate prepositions 'around' and 'across', um(b)(e), ym(b)(e) wasn't needed and fell out ... but not completely. Umb is still listed in the M-W wordbook, and umbe is in the old Webster's wordbook. The only nowadays words that I can think of that are in English are German words used in English ... umlaut (about-sound) and umwelt (environment ... about- world).
If you want to get rid of the Latinate 'around', you'll need to start using um(be).
EinWulf ... Wes þu hal! 01:06, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Kludging[]

Is this an attested word? I can't find it anywhere. BryanAJParry 18:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

kludge or kluge
n. Slang
1. A system, especially a computer system, that is constituted of poorly matched elements or of elements originally intended for other applications.
2.A clumsy or inelegant solution to a problem.
ex·ap·ta·tion
n. Biology
The utilization of a structure or feature for a function other than that for which it was developed through natural selection.
~Inkstersco


Kyserdom[]

Methinks "Kyserdom" is an ugly Latin word. The Deutsch word "Kaiser" that I think led to "Kyser" is not true Deutsch. It is a Deutsch spelling of the Latin word "Caesar". I might put forward "High King" for "Emperor" and "High Kingdom" or "Manikingdom" for "Empire"

Tom

First, I have no clue where that spelling came from, certainly not one I recognise. Next, I think that it may be worthwhile taking this on a case-by-case basis, because not all 'empires' in history were the same. I think that for 'Roman Empire', the replacement 'Roman Caesardom' is fine on the grounds that the 'king' was called 'caesar', and this was his '-dom' (forgive the explanation). But maybe for other empires, like British, Persian and Spanish, another word is needed, not least bacuse they didn't all have the same makeup (except for being all truly great). Oswax Scolere 15:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Engine[]

engine n iron horse, spincraft, turncraft

I've put in these words for "engine". Any good? I know "turn" looks a bit French, but it is an OE word too, so says the OED. Tom.


iron horse, noun, poetic/literary - a steam locomotive. OED
I don't understand spincraft and turncraft. To me, spincraft would either be a craft that spins or the skill (craft) of spinning as someone who spins yarn. Either way, it wouldn't mean an engine or motor.
First, give the meaning of engine. From OED, an engine is a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.
Thus ... it is a motor of some type. Motor comes from 'move' or 'motion' (Still stuck with Latinates). Sadly, there is no one Anglo word for 'motion'. There are some that are close. I can put forward few words ... but this is where I would start building the word. EinWulf ... Wes þu hal! 15:56, September 13, 2011 (UTC)
I would suggest using work as your starting point, not the turning element of an engine. An engine is something that does work. I would prefer worker but that obviously has human meaning so I would suggest workings.TheBigHairy (talk) 12:55, August 5, 2015 (UTC)TheBigHairy

erotic not lewd, kinky[]

it doesn't hold that lewd, kinky wend into erotic. it's a calvinish thought. maybe better: love

Exponentiate[]

Exponentiate is right now rightfortold from Thœdish, leading into mightforheave. I'm not getting it, however. In New English, manifold means something that shows for something in a higher sheet: a wheel is a manifolded edge on a sheet. The skin of a ball is a manifolded sheet on a room. I lean towards cleaving manifold to make 'fold many' or simply 'fold' and have the compound word manifold to mean exponentiate because of the modern definition.

Six fold two is twelve.

Six manifold two is thrity-six.

Y'all ken?

Xelebes 22:42, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Amberling[]

Amberling is no good. While the Goths held the "Amber Road" (Gothic Sea to Black Sea), there needs to be a better word. Amber comes from Old Frankish, which is a child of the Romish word which itself is a child of the Sandwanderish word. Is not Thunderling a better word? Lodeling? Sparkling? Xelebes 09:24, June 22, 2011 (UTC)


Thunder? - loud rumbling or crashing noise heard after a lightning flash due to the expansion of rapidly heated air. OED

Electron - electric + on (from ion); coined from Gk. ion, neut. prp. of ienai "go" ... BTW, both words were made by Englishmen.
Amber, from O.Fr. ambre, from M.L. ambar "ambergris" from Arabic 'anbar "ambergris".
OE: glær m. amber, resin

Thus ... electric = (pick your suffix) ... glaren, glarel, glarlike, glarsum, glarum (old dative pl)

Instead of ion ... id from Goth. iddja "went".

glarenid, glarelid, glarlikeid (glarlikid), glarsumid, or glarumid.
OR
The OE past tense for "go" (gan) was eode, of uncertain origin but evidently once a different word (perhaps connected to Goth. iddja).
+(e)od
glareod, glarelod, glarlikeod, glarsumod, or glarumod.
That wasn't hard.
EinWulf ... Wes þu hal! 00:13, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Everything Please?[]

What would be the word for all or everything.

Every and Thing are both English. Every: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=every&allowed_in_frame=0 Thing: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=thing&allowed_in_frame=0
Palerose (talk) 11:00, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

"bedraining" for exploitation[]

I think something that get across the action that the word has on obects, persons, and folk would be appropiate. Thoughts? TheStarryPlough (talk) 06:30, May 26, 2017 (UTC)StarryPloughTheStarryPlough (talk) 06:30, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

I'll eke it to the woordbook. I would also eke the calque "outbootying" [out + booty + ing], wich is seen in many germanish tungs (NHG Ausbeutung, Du. uitbuiting, Dan. outbytning) Alfredikus (talk) 11:21, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

"Exact"[]

This is this word "exact" that I can't get over. I've been looking Here  and Here but I can't find anything to match "Exact." The nearest thing I could get to "exact" was "hnēaw" meaning "stingy, sparing." It is kindred to the words "Nig, Niggleand Nigg(ard)" [the -ard is French], but they are most likely from Old Norse hnøggr. If we want to overset the word "hnēaw" from OE we can do that. The "-ē-" makes an "ee" sound like in "beat" and "to be" I believe, but that is all I know. This word is such a BOTHER! Also look at the NHG. genau which is kindred to the Old English word hneaw.  Wordforword (talk) 02:14, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Also i would eke ge- to hneaw, like in NHG genau. And after the soundshift this would come out : ynauw. I'll eke it to the wordbook. Alfredikus (talk) 13:35, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Where has "alne" come from?[]

The inputs for "electricity" and "energy" stake that "alne" is a word found in the Oxford English Dictionary. Yet I can't seem to find this word at all. There's no Wiktionary leaf on it either, which is odd since you'd think that there would at least be a leaf on the Old English word or something.

The kind of word that I've been looking for would fit the meaning of something along the lines of, "magical energy". Any thoughts and does anyone have some true bywords for this "alne" word in writings or wordbooks outside of the wiki?

Ainatari (talk) 18:10, November 28, 2019 (UTC)