This one made aswell by overbinding from Wikipedia, the original site being: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widukind . I highly recommend this sort of writing, since it forces new words to be made up faster. I've come up with some more suggestions to add to the wordbook:
accept vb take in
account n writ
antagonist n gainstander
baptize vb forewash (baptism n forewashing (most likely not the best prefix, now meaning "wash for the future"))
character n being
Charlemagne name Charles the Great (the only thing uncertain is "Charles". Should it be kept as it is, or changed into "Karl" or something similar (Latin name for him is "Karolus Magnus")
chief n leader
coat of arms n kinshield (because the definition for the concept in Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary: the family insignia embroidered on the surcoat worn over the hauberk, or coat of mail: the heraldic bearings of a gentleman)
continuation n abideness
corpse n body
depict vb show
details n further reading (translation just for this context)
district n hundred
duke n alderman ( Old English ealdorman (from which modern alderman comes) was rendered in Latin as dux)
feast n merrymaking
hero n ? (used known man for now, but didn't come up with anything, maybe brave?)
independence n selflawing (this however doesn't make a distinction between "independence" and "autonomy", so an other possibility could be selfmight?)
inflict vb lay on
involve vb entangle
modern adj newer
monumental adj great
outline vb hint
punishment n soreteaching (not the best option)
rebellion n uprising
region n land
relative(s) n kin
report n telling
research vb knowledge (not the best option)
return vb come back
revive vb bring something back to life
saintly figure n holy man
scant adj little
spirit n might
spirit n ghost/elf
state n shire (as in the state of Alabama etc.)
subdue vb overcome, quell
succeed (in) vb win (in)
tomb n grave
traditional faith n beliefs handed down
trial n finding
tribal leader n kinelder
verdict n finding
I am very much tempted to translate "black" in "black horse" as swart, but I'll restrain myself from doing that :D . Padraig 18.06.2006
- Except, Padraig, that "black" is a Germanic root and so is perfectly acceptable. Also, note that many of these English words already have Anglish equivs. in the wordbook. Furthermore, whilst I don't wish to dampen your obviously ample enthusiasm, I have to say that rapidly adding new words to the wordbook is *not* a good idea. That way we will get ill-thoughtout words. :) For your reference, I now post the already listed Anglish words for the above English: account (n) = ledger, chief = leader, continue has a bunch of words, corpse = (dead)body, lich, I think "dux" = "duke" was in Old English, altho I do like alderman, I think "newer" should lose its "er" as an equiv. for "modern", "myth" was in the wordbook but isn't now for some reason, "outline" is perfectly good Anglish, so I don't see why it needs replacing, "region" WAS "landship" in OE, and so on. In short, you've got some good ideas, but a bunch of words are already listed. BryanAJParry 19:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Also, maybe "forwash" with no "e" is a better idea, for it would mean "totally wash", as opposed to your "forewash" which means "forward wash". Charlemagne = literally "Charles/Karl the great".... so Karl the Great. But I don't think proper names should really be changed. Except, of course, "Charles" was not his actual name; I think his actual name WAS "Karl". BryanAJParry 19:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the work you have done is truly good Padraig. But, as seen as you asked, I will give my thoughts on your words. Forgive me if I go on at length, but it is better than nothing.
- Accept in this writ is most likley better given as become, so that it read '...Widukind to become Christian.'
- Account is good as writ, though writings could have also been swapped for it.
- Antagonist matched up to gainstander is a truly good swap.
- Baptize can be straight swapped with christen which was in Old English and has the same meaning.
- Character is good as being, and I think you have done well to find a word to overbring that! I don't know of another but maybe self, if it stretches its meaning a little.
- Charlemagne I think ought be left as it is, unless we can find out what he called himself.
- Chief is great as leader, though as a honeword it ought to be lead. So that it becomes '...lead gainstander of Charlemagne.'
- Coat-of-arms is well done as kinshield, though I dare say that shield may work.
- Continuation is a hard word, and I don't think abideness truly holds its meanings. Maybe here the word keeping would work.
- Corpse is alright as body, though I would like to see the word lich brought back to life (forgive me that).
- Depict here is good as show.
- Details again is good as further reading (or even more) in this one meaning. Word knows what it would be elswhere.
- District may be better as riding for the word hundred may be mistaken for something else.
- Duke I understand means leader, and I don't alderman holds its meaning. Myself, I don't care too much for the names of kings and highborn folk, and would most likely throw it in with earl, even though the meanings are not always the same.
- Feast is hard to overbring, and hinges on whether they mean a day or only a meal to be given over for thanksgiving.
- Hero again is hard, and your word is not too bad. Maybe great man would work also.
- Independence I feel you are on the right path with selflawing, but I have before written the word selfhood, which has the meaning of being a thing in your own right instead of being a share of something else.
- ...(more to come). Oswax Scolere 11:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- (For both Bryan and Oswax): Thanks for the feedback! I think this sort of constructive critisism is good in order for us to come up with the best possibilites. I've changed the resolved issues, so now it should look a bit better :) . Also, how is the wordbook dealt with? I'd rather not write down these words myself, so if you could add the words you like to the wordbook. This way it is a bit more regulated, atleast on my behalf :) . Padraig 19.06.2006
- You can list any words you wish in the wordbook at the Moot. If you think they may be contentious, then talk them over first. But really we want a wide range of words from others. Oswax Scolere 15:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- This may seem like a daft question but how does one start a new writ?I only know how to edit existing writs and I can't find anything in the help section that tells you how.Hereward 15:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- You type http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/ into the address box, and put the title of your article after it. So, for instance, http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Cheese. Because this is not an article, it will take you to a page asking if you want to make the article. Bryan BryanAJParry 12:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. I will try to do my own writ then. Cheers.Hereward 08:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)